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Initiative #7721 –  February 13, 2025 Security & Conflict Resolution

No deal on Ukraine without their involvement in negotiations

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We demand that if US and Russia negotiate about a possible end of the war (which is good), Ukraine is directly involved (would be bad, if not).

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  1. user avatar
    February 14, 2025
    RasmusTenbergen

    And no duties of European Countries without their early involvment in negotiations.

    1. user avatar
      February 16, 2025
      Robert

      The duty will be in the European Countries own best interest 

  2. user avatar
    February 16, 2025
    Robert

    The US is the single largest contributor and supporter to the Ukrainian war effort, as such, there is a direct negotiation level between Russia and the United States, this negotiation level concerns the involvement of US military support.

  3. user avatar
    February 16, 2025
    Robert

    It has become clear that the European democracies cannot rely on US support for Ukraine any longer and need to urgently develop their own strategy.

  4. user avatar
    February 16, 2025
    Robert

    It has become clear that the European democracies cannot rely on US support for Ukraine any longer and need to urgently develop their own strategy.

  5. user avatar
    February 16, 2025
    Robert

    It has become clear that the European democracies cannot rely on US support for Ukraine any longer and need to urgently develop their own strategy.

  6. user avatar
    February 16, 2025
    Robert

    It has become clear that the European democracies cannot rely on US support for Ukraine any longer and need to urgently develop their own strategy.

    1. user avatar
      February 16, 2025
      RasmusTenbergen

      First step of this strategy could be: no peace keeping troops without NATO defence guarantee (Article 5, NATO Treaty).

      1. user avatar
        February 16, 2025
        Robert

        Yes that is definitely a good starting point, because the US will not want to uphold a peace agreement without peacekeeping troops

        1. user avatar
          February 16, 2025
          RasmusTenbergen

          Negotiation means give and take.

          1. user avatar
            February 16, 2025
            Robert

            The war goal of Russia is the removal of the pro-Western government in Ukraine, unfortunately I cannot see that Russia will stop short of it

            1. user avatar
              February 16, 2025
              RasmusTenbergen

              If so, Putin should be stopped, the earlier, the better.

              1. user avatar
                February 16, 2025
                Robert

                I agree, the question is if the United States under the current administration also want to commit to this goal

                1. user avatar
                  February 16, 2025
                  RasmusTenbergen

                  It seems we need to find a way without them.

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